21. Dené Logan doesn’t do things she hates (and you don’t have to either)

Episode summary:

Find out how a practice of kindness and compassion can pave the way for the type of life that lights you up. Dené Logan is a marriage and family therapist, facilitator, and co-host of the Cheaper than Therapy podcast.  Her first book, Sovereign Love: A Guide to Healing Relationships by Reclaiming the Masculine and Feminine Within, will be released in May 2024. 

Here’s what went down:

  • How Dené managed to carve out time to write an actual book

  • What 2020 taught Dene about social boundaries

  • How Dene prioritises when it comes to letting go of commitments

  • Learn Dene’s non-negotiables for starting her day

  • Internal Family Systems: Martha butchers a description of the only therapeutic modality that has ever worked for her

  • Dené shares the tools she uses to get back to herself during times of overwhelm

  • How re-parenting (inner child work) helps Dené hype herself up

  • Radical self-forgiveness is the antidote to Dené’s anxiety

  • Dené explains masculine and feminine energetics (and it goes all the way back to Carl Jung)

  • Liv and Martha are #triggered by this discussion and Dené helps us understand the nuances

  • How to reclaim the ability to talk about fem and masc identities while understanding that the binary is BS…

  • …so we can integrate healthy masculine and feminine energies 

  • Dené shares an easy system for a relationship check-in (and the importance of maintenance therapy for couples!)

We also mentioned these people/things:

Dené’s website

Preorder Sovereign Love

Dené’s Podcast—Cheaper Than Therapy

Dené’s LinkedIn

Dené’s Instagram


Martha’s website

Martha’s HyperFocus Week services

Martha’s LinkedIn and Instagram

Liv’s website

Liv’s LinkedIn

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